will a key piece of evidence be heard in court during the george zimmerman trial? the judge rules on the 911 tape. charged. the man who spilled national security secrets faces charge of espionage. will he ever be sent back to the u.s.? securing the border faces its big test monday. can the border really be secured. a markable new documentary about two schools getting together to recreate the film to kill a mockingbird. it's high noon here in the east. 9:00 a.m. out in the west. welcome. we have a big decision from the judge in the george zimmerman trial. it happened within the past couple of hours.

it involves the 911 tape from the night trayvon martin was killed. ron mott joins us. what did we learn? >> reporter: the judge, this is a much anticipated ruling, the judge is going to allow that 911 call to be played in court. what she's not going to allow is the state to call two experts, audio experts, who claimed they listened to these tape, analyzed them and say it's not george zimmerman it's on the tape. they will not be allowed to testify at trial. take a look at what the judge had to write. there's no competent evidence that the scientific techniques used by dr. owen generally accepted in the scientific field. this order does not prevent the parties from playing the tapes or calling witnesses familiar with the voice of the witness or martin to testify. the prosecution can still call witnesses who may say they know that that was trayvon martin's voice. the defense can call witnesses

including even george zimmerman himself to say whether or not he believes that was george zimmerman making the screams as well. >> on the heels of that george zimmerman's attorney has reacted. what's he saying? >> reporter: it's obviously a happy decision. he said he's very happy with the decision. judge nelson's ruling was spot on. it keeps junk science away from the jury. when i spoke to him last week he was okay with the judge going either way if he thought the experts would clarify the jury as opposed to confusing they will. the judge agreed with that positioning. the experts will not be allowed to testify but the tape will be heard and the jury will decide what they think they are hearing in those screams. >> ron, i know you're heading out to speak to him in person and when you get that stuff

we'll have you back on at 2:00. later on you'll hear fromm natalie jackson. that's in our next hour pm. edward snowden has been charged with two counts of espionage and theft. what are the details so far? >> reporter: legal analysts say the charges were a long time coming. they were filed last week at a federal court in virginia. it shows he's been charged with three things. theft of government property and then violating two espionage laws that make it illegal to reveal information to individuals who have not been cleared to receive that information. each of those charges carries

ten years in prison so really serious criminal charges have been filed. according to nbc news justice correspondent, pete williams, part of the reason this process took a while is u.s. officials were going back and forth with officials in hong kong where it's believed that snowden has been hiding out to make sure the criminal complaint applied with the extradition treaty. the big question is what happens next. u.s. initiofficials have asked officials there to arrest edward snowden. they will begin the process of trying to extradite him. snowden said he will contest extradition. that process could get drawn out for several months and under chinese law. that process is going to be incredibly complicated. this comes as he's leaked more

information to the guardian newspaper. that's the paper that first broke the stories about the leaks. snowden telling the guardian newspaper that in some respects the uk is worse than the united states when it comes to monitoring those types of record. this continues and so do the leaks. alex. >> thank you so much for that. >> reporter: thank you. today's twitter question is about accused spy edward snowden. will he ever set foot in the u.s. again. kurtis write why is hero snowden not proud to turn himself in. i thought he was proud of what he did and was not in hiding. michael says i believe he will not return. as much as some people knock him i think they appreciate knowing more about prism and john earl

asks is whether the u.s. will be a country where snowden wants to live in again. you can write me any time at alex witt. to front page politics. president obama stepping up pressure on congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform. >> the bill isn't perfect. nobody will get everything they want not democrats, not republicans not me. >> democrats and republicans in the senate unveiled an agreement on the amendment that would vastly increase fencing, patrols and high-tech monitoring along the u.s. border. senator reid says they will begin voting monday on that. kerry is strong proponent of international intervention to stop syria's civil war.

>> our effort is to allow the people of syria as a whole with every minority respected and protected to be able to choose the future for their country. to do so find peace and announce oppression and violence. >> a new report says cia and u.s. military operatives have been teaching syrian rebels how to use anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns. they say substantial assistance is being provided. joining me now lauren fox. we're going to start with the potential make or break moment for immigration reform. you have democrats and republicans who have unveiled this new amendment. that includes $30 billion to strengthen the border, 20,000

additional border agents and new drone technology. we're talking about a heck of a lot of money to secure this border but will it accomplish that? >> this is a political amendment. there's been this big drive in the senate to get some of the republicans who are on the fence about this immigration bill and the path to citizenship for the 11 million. how do we sweeten the deal for them. this seems to be the solution here. whether or not it strengthens the border to the point where it's completely secure we'll have to see. it's a substantial amount of money. it shows that there's a lot more work to be done here on the border. there's going to be 700 more miles of border fence. it's talking to some folks in texas for a story i've been working on. we do need additional help. there still isn't enough security on the border. they are excited about this high-tech performance border security measures like drones. >> david, we were listening to

the president who is pressed for immigration reform in his weekly address this morning. is the white house on board with spending $30 billion for border security in order to pass immigration reform. do they want legislation at any cost here? >> i think something lauren said is right. this is a political amendment. it gives more conservative republicans an opportunity to vote for it and support it. we're going to vote for this because it does x, y and z on the border. i think the obama administration have touted quite a bit all the things they have done. spending on the borders is the highest at the record levels. the number of people trying to cross is estimated to be at record low levels. still people coming in and there's still work to be done. there's also work to be done once people get here trying to find them and make sure they're not getting jobs illegally. i think the white house will say they will accept this. the president says it's not a bill i would get. it's not a bill i would write from the start. i think the reason is republicans may then support

this path to citizenship. >> supporters say they are hoping to get 70 votes in the senate. even if that happens does this bill have chance at passing in thousands. there's faction in the gop still against it? >> yeah, one of the arguments the senate may be overestimating is if they get 70 votes it's going to compel the republicans in the house to take up the senate legislation or take up legislation similar to it but house speaker john boehner has said on multiple occasions saying we're moving ahead on our own immigration measures. they have voted on measures on everify and more border security amendments. the house has their own ideas and they're faction in the gop who will never get on board to the path to citizenship and john boehner said i'm not bringing anything to the floor that

doesn't get a majority of my caucus on board. >> you have to wonder if those who oppose this are looking down the road. if it didn't get passed by the house, interpret what happens with the latino voters moving on. >> they nooned that we need to do better outreach. the problem is that works on big national scale, on a presidential election because they are fast growing group that care about this issue. in these individual districts it's not that important and i think the members understand that. if this doesn't pass, i think you'll see the democrats and president obama try to use this next year in the congressional elections as an issue to really win more democratic seats.

down the road in 2016 you see people like marco rubio brace this in a delicate way. >> i want to ask about the surprising defeat of the farm bill. conservatives demanded deeper cuts in the food stamp program. democrats objected to it. the house bill would have cut projected spending by nearly $40 billion over the next ten years. 20.5 would come from cuts from the food stamp program. what happens to the farm bill now? >> there's definitely a scramble in the house. i don't know anyone knows how they will proceed. the senate bill passed with a broad majority. many are saying why don't you take up that bill. house speaker boehner has signalled that's not a step he's willing to accept. we may just kick the can down the road and do a one year extension. it looks like the house gop isn't united here and there

isn't a way to get enough democrats on board without violating the so called hastert rule. >> the new york times says it was a stinging defeat for john boehner who wasn't able to secure the republican votes in the house to get this thing passed. is that how you see it? >> absolutely. not just for him and eric cantor. they counted the votes and thought they had them. they didn't have them on either side. the democrats didn't deliver. the republicans blamed them for not delivering. it's really a failure of the republicans and they miscounted their own caucus. it's not the first time this has happened. it's troubling. what this means for immigration reform, people are not sure. >> that's one way to keep a job if no one wants it. thank you so much. do you say soda or pop?

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northeast. pop is more common in the midwest, great plains and in wyoming. on monday the senate will hold a vote on a major amendment. it will have to get through the house where failure of this farm bill and speaker boehner support does not mean votes. thank you for joining us in studio. before we get some immigration issues i want to talk about the farm bill. $40 billion more so in cuts over ten years. 20.5 came from the food stamp program. you voted against it. tell me why. >> first of all this program is needed because of the recession and continued unemployment. we have greater need for food stamps. i think it makes in sense to cut those programs when you have the

need. it stimulates the economy. when people get food stamps they go out and buy things. that helps the economy and creates jobs. it makes no sense. >> what was interesting you and your colleagues for the most part in terms of the democratic party said this went way too far. the republicans said it didn't go far enough. with that big of a divide did we expect dmanything to get throug? >> it's going to be tough. i know you talked about the immigration reform. i think there's an effort on the part of the republican leadership to try to pass an immigration reform bill. they are putting so many roadblocks in the way. in the house you may have read that they voted on an amendment. this was like a tea party right wing amendment that makes being in the united states a crime. another amendment that gets rid of the dreamers act that lets young people stay here and not be deported. then the speaker is saying he

won't let the bill go to the floor unless it has a majority of the republicans which would include the tea party. we've got a long way to go. >> people arie looking to what happened to the farm bill. do you agree with that? >> i think ultimately he has. i don't think he can pass it past the republicans. >> in terms of the whisper campaign in the halls of congress do you sense that speaker boehner's job is in danger or it's a job that nobody really wants now? doesn't look like eric cantor is going after it. >> i think he's playing these games. he's got these 70 or 80 tea party republicans that's like the tail wagging the dog. they constantly threaten him. he's trying to figure out how to

pass things. it's not a job that's desirable. >> immigration bill, where do you stand on it? >> i'm forit. we do have to be careful it provide a pathway to citizenship that's not too difficult. >> or costly. >> it's interesting because you brought up the farm bill and that $30 billion for the fencing is almost the same as the 25 billion for the food stamps. think about it. we're spending all this money on fencing that could be used to pay for the extra food stamps. i don't know that fencing is really worth it but we'll have to take some compromises to get this passed. >> what about the fencing and agents using high-tech drone technology to monitor the borders. what do you think about that? >> it's a good idea to look at new technologies but i think a lot of these things are being put in for political reasons and we don't know if they work.

rather than load up this bill with drones and fencing, i think we should try to pass the bill and let the department of homeland security make other recommendations about what really works. this is all being thrown in for political reasons it's very expensive and may not work. >> may i ask you about what you're doing this summer. i said you need to have track shoes on. >> we have the u.s. senate race. it's coming up in a special election on august 13th. i'm out there campaigning. i believe i'm the best candidate because i'm the person that gets things done. i've accomplished a lot over the yeast like the health care reform. i believe people want someone who knows,000 get things done in washington. >> it's been suggested that your thoughts, your opinion, vote most cloerly mirror those of frank lautenburg.

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the judge has ruled the testimony from voice experts on the audio from the 911 call knead the day trayvon martin was killed is not admissible at trial. the all female jury has been selected and will be seated to hear opening statements on monday. zimmerman has pleaded not and says he shot martin in self-defense. joining me with perspective on this case is lisa green. thank you for being here. let's talk about the judge's ruling of the audio saying this tape will be admitted but not expert testimony. >> i don't think it's a particular surprise. the judge issued a thoughtful ruling measuring scientific evidence against the current standard in florida law which will increase in severity in just a few days. i think she had that in her rear view mirror. she weighed the prosecution experts against the defendants

experts and concluded this evidence that analyzing it wasn't really up to snuff to allow to hear a jury say in our expert opinion this is trayvon. >> they can listen and form their own opinion. who do you think benefits? >> the prosecution and not the defense. this is a horrible ruling. i'm still hopeful that the defense team will object to the 911 team coming in under the hearsay rule and further under the bolstering. there's a issue of bolstering that the prosecution is bolstering their case. that may be an objection. this piece of evidence leads to too much speculation without any corroboration. that's an objection. >> mark o'mara was telling one of our reporters who is on the way to meet with him and get the details that he awe. [ applause ] applauds this ruling.

>> every time i read something he says this is great. the jury is all white. i think that's his party line with this case. >> there's no doubt that the judge saying we're not going to allow the jury to hear experts opine in that conclusive way that experts naturally have, this is trayvon on the tape opening the tape up to much more interpretation. >> which is bad for the defense. >> we'll see what ron mott gets out of him. we hope to have the reaction from mark o'mara on tape. is it a good idea to put george zimmerman on the stand. do you do that after having played these tapes? is there any way to try to do a voice identity match? >> this is always arguably the most dramatic decision a defense lawyer has to make. in this case i presume they will do what they need to do and weigh the value in what he can bring in his narrative against

his credibility, his like ability, mothers, jugun owners, all women. just six. he's going to make that decision closer to game time. >> why would he testify? >> he's spoken so many times over and over again whether it's to media or the police. his statements are out there. if those statements come in before the jury you have to foundation for the self-defense charge. why would he testify? he's not going to come across well. he's completely dislikable. there's no value to it. >> do you have an idea how an all female jury might impact this case? do you see anything different about that? >> to me it's sort of a field day for amateur sociologist. if you've been in a meeting or

run a meeting, i don't know if anyone has said let's bring more people in to reach a decision. we have six jurors instead of 12. sg sgln. >> what do you make of the overall make up? >> i think the x factor that people aren't talking about is this concept of white guilt. i think the prosecution is hoping that even though this mostly white jury is propmatic for us, i'm hoping there's somebody on that jury who has remorse for the history of black americans in this country. it's a concept and i think people aren't talking about it but i think it's there. >> what about the concept of sequestration? does that begin monday? >> monday that's it. pack the bags. >> all the way through. we've got jurors, at least one juror has multiple children. they will want to get back to their lives. i think what we'll see on allow experts testimony is a much more

streamlined trial. >> does that make people focus more or is there a frustration level that can erupt? >> i think it's not going to help either side's case to sequester this jury. they will be miserable. they are going to be missing their families. you need a break. you cannot be on trial 24 hours a day. trust me, we know that. >> we're going to have you back to share a little more. thank you so much. let's go from there to weather. a state of emergency has been declared in the canada as flooding continues to inendate alberta. so far the floods have claimed three lives. good afternoon dylan. >> we'll see our best chance of storms up across the dakotas. we're going to see in the

northeast a nice quiet day. it's going to start getting very warm. also very hot and dry across parts of the western half of the country. i'll show you that in a second. chicago will see rain. you see out towards colorado and parts of new mexico there's no rain now. it's extremely dry. high fire danger warnings have been posted with the red flag warnings because of the gusty winds and very high heat and the dry conditions. we already have plenty of fires going out that way and today's weather conditions certainly will not be helping with highs today in denver hitting 91 degrees. we should be in the mid-90s across most of the planes. 89 in chicago and we're looking to top out in the 90s. the hottest it's been so far this year. 88 up across minneapolis. should make it up close to 90 degrees with building humidity.

as for thunderstorms we will see late storms akros parts of new england but not until late in the day. most of sunday does look okay. most of the weekend except for parts of the northern plains and northern midwest. alex. if you have a moment this weekend step outside and witness the largest and brightest super moon to grace the sky in 2013. super moons do occur a few times a year this will be the closest to the earth passing about 17,000 miles closer than the typical distance. it will take place early on sunday. in today's office politics msnbc analysts and former gop chair michael steel. he tells me why his mother is the most powerful woman in the world and what he was thinking when he became the first african-american elected to statewide office in maryland. first i asked him about the challenges of being black and

republican. >> where to begin? you have a couch? it is a very, very daunting, challenging opportunity, responsibility. you get within your own community you're not trusted because you're a republican. you're an uncle tom, you're a sell out. you have whites who look at you inside and outside the republican party, democrats included, look at you suspiciously. what i've learned to do is just be me. i'm the same guy today as i was in high school. sometimes it's better to to not be pushy.

i've always felt the sense of urgency when it comes to my politics. >> what did it mean to you to be the first statewide african-american elected to office. >> i'm standing on the capital steps overlooking a sea of folks, this grand building, historic building and right behind me down at the port, literally behind me kunta kinte was sold into slavery. i'm going i'm now part of this legacy. this is the continuation of his story in so many ways. the continuation of so many african-americans who died, who struggled, who were successful, who failed. i'm standing on their shoulders

on this step. >> i want to talk about you and your childhood. you were born at andrews air force base and you were adopted. what do you know about, if anything, your bilogical family? >> nothing. the system is designed not to let me anything. i don't know my medical history. i don't know anything about my parents other than they were coeds at catholic university and that my mother, my birth mother was convinced by one of the sisters who worked at st. ann's infant home to give me up for adoption as opposed to making a different choice. people understand why i'm pro-life, now you know. >> your adoptive mother, your mother -- >> most powerful woman in the world. >> she brought you up by herself after her husband died when you were about three years old. >> my mother is just one of

these people that is giving and selfless but strong and stern and she's just a power house and an example of the american dream because the american dream is in many respects not so much what you get but what you give. when you have someone who has very little and they give it all, wow. that's a very powerful lesson. >> tomorrow at this time michael explains why people get it wrong when they say republicans only want tax breaks for the rich plus what it's like to have mike tyson as a brother-in-law. a classic book revisited in alabama. the new documentary about to kill a mockingbird and why it still resonates. [ panting ]

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the people who took to the streets in birmingham in 1963 were people like you. they were kids. it was called the children's marches in birmingham because adults were working. >> that's scene from the new documentary our mockingbird basedbase ed on a stage production. it's a collaboration by two schools in alabama. one of them all white. the other all black. lee never published another novel. the questions and challenges presented in her novel are still prevalent in society today. >> we've taken down the visible >> with a big welcome to you, i

documentary. alabama when there was still different facilities for whites and blacks and during the time fire hoses and dogs set on children. to kill a mockingbird represented people who wanted something else and did not like any of that. people from alabama that might aspire to something more just. >> this documentary is based on the collaboration between these two schools. there's one school with a white student population and one with a black student population about 16 miles apart. talk about the plan to collaborate. where did that start from? >> i think to clarify something. i started the documentary.

i wanted to do this because i left boston. i left birmingham for boston. i knew to kill a mockingbird was important for me. i started to make a documentary i wove the story of the two documentary. sense of how far we have come on the issue of fu and integration beholder. workplace

really. i fifth grade teacher that works in a diverse school in duncanville, alabama said for a lot of us without wanting to admit it we're scared not only to be on the other side of towns but to meet people that are not necessarily in our community and that some people avoid. do you think there's fear and under ta fehat fear is a sense people wanting to break out of that and come together? >> i think that many people are afraid of another group of people who they have never encountered. people who are the other. people who look and or act

different than they do. i think that's very common. i think that's age old. i think that a collaboration like this shows how important it a sense that these communities want to talk about race, racism and how to move past it? it should be worked into everywhere. absolutely think probably country. >> our mockingbird film maker. best of luck. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him,

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tmpblts food network announced they won't renew her contract after deen admitted to using rational slurs in the past. we have been following this story. with a good afternoon to you. what's the latest? >> paula deen has earned a place at the table in america's home but she's come under fire for her words and now the self-described queen of southern cooking a facing a battle in the court of public opinion. paula deen served up a public apology following her admission she's used racial slurs. >> i want to apologize to everybody for the wrong that i've done. >> reporter: in the video edited by deen's team the food network

star also made a plea. >> i beg for your forgiveness. >> reporter: a few hours late the first video was replaced with a new unedited version. an attempt at damage control from answers she gave in a deposition. they are being sued by a former employee who is white. >> paula deen wanted a wedding southern plantation style and she used the n word to describe african-american waiters. >> reporter: when asked from you ever used the n word yourself, she replies, yes, of course. it was probably when a burst man burst into the bank i was working at and put a gun to my head. public relations experts say he apology ended up a recipe for disaster. >> what she said is similar to a

child saying i'm sorry i got caught. i wish this went away. >> reporter: she's been in the hot seat before famous with over the top high fat recipes she faced criticism for not telling the public she was battling diabetes. on friday she was a no show for "today". >> we agreed there would be no restrictions. >> reporter: now she's out one job. the food network says it's not renewing her contract. >> there's a lot at stake when it comes to her business. her $17 million empire includes cook books, business deals. >> we'll see what happens. thank you very much. the judge rules on whether audio experts can testify about the 911 call in the george zimmerman case. we have live report from florida, next. ♪

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the judge in the george zimmerman case issues a ruling on that 911 call. how will it be handled during the trial. that's ahead. catching snowden. how can hong kong help or will it? : good day to all of you. it's 1:00 here on the east. 10:00 a.m. on the west. we'll get to what's happening out there. the home of aaron hernandez is facing more police attention today after one search of the house in connection with a homicide. the body of semi proplayer oden lloyd was found. so far no arrests made in the case. with a good afternoon to you. i understand he's home now. is he still home and has he spoken with police? >> reporter: we believe he's still home unless he's been

snuck out. he came back from publicly yesterday with his lawyer. we believe he's inside. there hasn't been any charges or any official name of suspects. there was a flurry of excitement yesterday with reports that a warrant for his arrest had been issued. those reports were wrong. there's been no warrant issued in this case. the body was found about a mile from here on monday by a jogger in an industrial park. since then there's been a lot of police activity. aaron has been questioned. his house has been searched and there has been a lot of rumor going around there might be an arrest warrant but there hasn't been. there's been fall out from him. he's lot a major endorsement. alex. >> what can you tell us about aaron hernandez and his connection to lloyd and what do we know about him.

he's a young guy. he's a new nfl player. >> reporter: there's been reports there's surveillance video of the two men in the days leading up to the murder. we don't know for sure what their relationship is at that point. aaron hernandez is a 23-year-old rising star for the new england patriots. last summer he signed large deal. $40 million over the course of five years to play tight end. he really is one of their stars. the coaches talk about him having quite a bright future but something like this could certainly get in the way. already tarring a reputation even though there hasn't been any charges at all. >> that's right. thank you very much. major developments in the nsa leak case. prosecutors have charged edward snowden with two counts of espionage and theft. does the government have any

hope of getting him out of hiding and back here on u.s. soil. >> reporter: today the hong kong authorities were being very tight lipped refusing to answer questions about the charges in the states nor about whether they had received a request from washington. the city's police commissioner today would only say that any case would proceed according to hong kong law and hong kong procedures. the first step in that procedure is receiving a request from the u.s. that would either be a provisional arrest warrant or a full extradition request under an agreement between hong kong and the u.s. once that's received by the justice ministry and been looked at by the chief executive here and happy it conforms with that agreement then a court can order the arrest of snowden. then they have to find him. he's here and in hiding.

then a legal process begins which can be very complicated and affords him all manner of opportunity of appeal and delay. he can seek asylum. he can see these are politically motivated. that's a catch under the extradition laws. people cannot be extradited for political offenses but determines that would begin a whole new process here in the court. this is really just the first step once a request is received by hong kong, the first step in what kbould a very long and complicated procedure. >> thank you very much. president obama has met with the newly assembled privacy and civil liberties board at the white house following the disclosure about surveillance programs. he sat down with board members friday in the white house situation room.

nbc kristen welker spoke with the chairman. >> we could take a fresh look at counter terrorism programs and see whether they have a strong legal basis and whether they address privacy and civil liberties concern. >> the watchdog group has formed a review of policies in an effort to balance and protect the privacy an civil liberties. president obama is putting more pressure on congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform. >> the bill isn't perfect. it's a compromise. nobody will get e everything they want. it's consistent with the principles that i and others have laid out for common sense reform. >> the president's message comes just today after democrats and republicans in the senate unveiled a new amendment that includes $30 billion to strengthen the u.s. mexico boarder. 20,000 additional border agents

and also some very high-tech drone technology. let me bring in reid wilson. good to see you. i'll begin with you reid. harry reid says senators will vehicle co vote on this. do you think they'll get the vote of 70? >> i got this note pad here. i was thinking about doing the tim russert math. i'm watching senator pryor and joe from west virginia. you have the two republicans who is said they will vote for it then you have a lot of guys who are getting there really quickly.

the amendment was from bob corker. i think he's a yes on this. you're very quickly getting not only to 60, which you need to cut off debate and have a final vote on passage but you're getting up to 70. i think at the moment the ceiling is probably 80 votes. they'll probably get closer to 70. there's about 15 to 20 republican senator who is are eyeing each other because it's a lot easier to be the 70th vote or the 75th than the 61st. you're taking a lot more political heat if you're 61 than 75. >> i'm impressed you did that without the white board. that was pretty good. do you agree, do you think they get to 70 yes votes? is it plausible. even if they do what happens when this goes to the house? there's no guarantees there.

>> i'm very impressed with reid there. 70 is possible. the 80, i did raise my eyebrows bit. you're not seeing senators reacting to their own rea re-election campaigns in 2014. somebody like lindsey graham has put a lot of stakes on being part of the gang of eight. in the house it's a different ball game. they think it goes too far. they feel far more vulnerable to these critiques of amnesty. the house is going to vote on a different bill. in theory they should end up passing a bill in the house. they will go to conference and work out a deal. nothing is that easy in

washington. a lot of advocates are concerned. does the white house get involved and that could complicate things. >> the republican party wants to attract more latino voters. if this passes rather fails, what does that do to the voting relationship with the latino voters and the gop? >> this is a big problem for republicans now especially after this week when the farm bill failed. there's no such thing as a carryover to the house of representatives. if the house republicans are the ones who kill this bill that's in the going to go over well with hispanics who are a rising force in american politics.

there are issues that hispanic voters are in line with the republican party on. however, you don't get to start having that conversation, you don't get to start convincing people if every hispanic thinks the republican party hates them. as we saw in 2012 the hispanic part of the democratic coalition is becoming overwhelming. s >> speaking of rises forces hillary clinton spoke last night in canada. here is what part of what she said. >> let me say this hypothetically speaking, i really do hope we have a woman president in my lifetime whether it's next time or the next time after that it really depends on women stepping up and subjecting

themselves to the political process which is very difficult. >> okay. totally scrutinizing like is there body language, what do you make of those remarks? >> we all love talking about this. it would be an interesting story to cover in she runs again in 2016. she's had a very smart tactical roll out or unveiling over the last few weeks from twitter to what she did with the clinton global initiative in chicago last week to engaging with chelsea clinton. she knows how to keep people interested in her. what she said is not anything new. it's that she's saying it now and having fun saying it getting people going. i will point out on immigration house and senate republicans don't necessarily like each

other or talk to each other that much which is another big sticking point. >> we have a couple of high profile women. we hear that senator kristen is telling her to run. it's like the political power house of women converging together. >> i don't think it's unprecedented. every candidate has their supporters. she's clearly having fun on this. she called claire afterwards. she mentioned that on morning show a couple of days ago. it's clear that she's having a ball doing this and sort of hinting at it. she's a clinton. she won't close any doors until she has to. she's having fun now. >> we're having fun talking

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: more now on a developing story from the second-degree murder trial of george zimmerman. the judge has ruled that voice experts on the audio is not admissible at trial. that tape can be played by both sides during the trial. joining me now natalie jackson, co-counsel for the trayvon martin family. i'm curious your reaction to the judge's decision. >> thank you. sometimes you agree with judges and sometimes you don't. i will tell you in this case this decision probably is

helpful to the case because with the experts we saw there were five days of testimony just with these experts. that can be confusing to a jury. we're glad that the jury will listen to the screams themselves an decide. we think common sense will rule the day and they will know just from the screams and the fact that they stop after the gunshot that this was trayvon screaming. >> is there any consideration being given to immediate members of trayvon that will testify that they are listening to trayvon screaming. >> you'll have trayvon's mother saying it's him and family members. only george zimmerman you'll have his mother and father saying it's him. the big thing that we see that is the tie breaker is the fact that during george zimmerman's interview with the detective, he

played the tape back for george zimmerman and he said it didn't sound like him. >> that will be admissible at trial? >> definitely. >> in the immediate reaction mark o'mara said he applauded the judge's decision. who do you any benefits the most from this development? is it the state or the defense? >> with this state this could have bolstered their case but it does not hurt it. mark o'mara never had an expert that said it was george zimmerman. >> many cases are won in the jury selection phase. what was the martin's reaction after hearing it's going to be an all female jury? >> they placed their trust in the justice system. this case started with them asking for simple justice that

the man who shot and killed their son be arrested that's what they wanted and they ask now for a fair and unbiassed look at the evidence and a verdict determined by the evidence. i think some of the arguments that have been made about this jury it's really -- it's not giving the jurors enough credit. >> i'd love to have you weigh in. your thoughts on it being all female and the overall make up of this jury. how comfortable with you and what kind of expectations do you hold? >> because i'm a woman and a woman's advocate i have the expectation they will follow the law and go as they're promised. what the defense was looking for and they probably like this jury based on the fact the defense has been the scary black man theory. that's what the character assassinations have been about. they want to push forth that

theory to the all white woman jury. i'll say the prosecution probably like this jury because they thought this was a jury a mother with children and be sympathetic to sybrina. the jurors promised they would look at the evidence and decide the case on the evidence not such improper things as personal biassed or sympathy. >> how do you go about preparing sybrina and tracy for listening to what they been assassination of their son's character. that will be out there in court. they have to listen to that? >> they've heard this for a year. that's why they have been so vocal. this is one of their missions is make sure that people really know who their son was. the only defense that the defense has is the fact that

they want to portray trayvon as a homicide maniac that turned on george zimmerman. this is a kid who was walking home from the store talking on the phone to his girlfriend. they have a hard row. this is why so many people are confident that this jury will come back with a conviction. >> you said that trayvon's family just wanted someone to be arrested in the case of their son's death and brought to trial. is that enough still? >> i think with them if they feel the evidence, they're going to be sitting in the courtroom so they understand they can't control the evidence that's presented by the prosecution or the evidence that's presented by the judge or the way the judge rules on what evidence is admissible. they've been prepared for that. we told them there are ups and downs in trials and in the end justice is not about what

happens with the verdict. justice is the process and making sure the process is equal and fair and everyone who is participating in the system including the jurors just base their verdict on the evidence. if they do that then there's nothing that i think that any of us can do is say the system worked. >> natalie jackson, you worked with this interview. thank you for much for your time. >> thank you. coming up, george zimmerman's attorney will further explain why he applauds today's court decision. : it's the case that's ri vetted the nation. it's still not over but tonight the jodi arias tv movie hits the air. we have a preview with the screen writers and the challenges they faced. take these bags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. here's your wake up call.

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welcome back. let's go to our developing story out of sanford, florida. the judge has ruled out testimony from audio experts regarding that 911 tape from call made on the night trayvon martin was killed. that 911 tape can be played in court for people familiar with either martin or zimmerman's voice and they are allowed to testify about it. ron mott spoke to mark o'mara a short while ago. what you got. what's he say iing. >> reporter: she was confident the judge would come down this way. the jury will be presented with what is junk science in his

opinion. those expert will not be able to testify but as you mentioned the 911 call will be played. both sides can call witnesses whether they be trayvon martin's parents or someone known to george zimmerman to say who they think might be on the tape. take a listen. >> i think she did great job of analyzing the case law and most importantly applying it to the facts of this case. good science can be a very good benefit to the jury. when it becomes junk science as it would have been in this case i'm glad it was kept away from the jury. >> reporter: mark o'mara took some time way from preparing for opening statements that's set to begin on monday. i asked what are the few points he'll try to get across. he said he will say this was a tragedy. a young life was lost which is obviously a tragedy but this was not a crime. i asked him that simple. he said it's that simple. this was matter of self-defense.

he believes once the jury hear the evidence they will acquit him. >> ron, has he come down on whether he plans to put george zimmerman on the stand. >> reporter: i asked whether today's ruling might change his thinking about that. he said it's too early to tell. obviously some people who are sort of favoring the prosecution in this case think that you can't claim self-defense without having the defendant get on the stand and claim that out right but there is a tape of george zimmerman that's going to be played in this trial where the day after the shooting he is describing for police exactly what happened in his eyes and of course we'll have to see whether the jury is accepting his version of events or if the evidence will side with george zimmerman or the prosecution's case. we'll have to see the. >> thanks so much.

an arizona judge has set a hearing for july 18th to decide whether jodi arias if face a new jury. a jury found her guilty of first-degree murder and ruled her eligible for the death penalty but failed to reach consensus on whether she should be executed. it played out on live tv like a soap oprah and it's been turned into a cable tv movie debuting tonight on lifetime. >> ever time you see me you can't resist me. i'm jodi by the way. >> joining me are the writers. nice to see you both. thanks for joining us. >> hi. >> greg, i'm going to begin with you. so many complex angles and

face facets. what are the viewers going to see? what is your focus? >> our focus is that we took the point of view of the prosecution. we came at it really as feature writers. we have a project that's going to be out later this year and another with dream works called someone in the dark. we had a bit of a learning curve with writing a movie for television but we had the benefit of a terrific team. also the group of lifetime really brought it home. our point of view was to tell a dramatic story. we were in the business of telling a story that we thought was incredibly compelling to begin with and we tried to

create a movie that represent e it and did it justice. >> let's take another clip here. >> were you crying while you were shooting him in. >> i don't remember. >> were you crying when you were stabbing him? how about when you cut his throat, were you crying then? >> i don't remember. >> i have nothing further. >> richard, you have about 12 minutes of this film devoted to the trial and you finished writing the script last december right as the trial was beginning. your filming began in april right as the trial was in full swing. talk about the challenges that presented to you and did it have to change your script? >> it did. it changed the script a lot. a lot of people don't know is this project was in the works

over a year ago. our first draft came in mid-december of last year. we didn't know the trial was going to happen this year. this concept five years ago, she was supposed to be tried in 2010 and it kept getting put off and off. none of us had any idea that when this trial began it was going to blow up into what it did. once it got to a point where it captured the imagination our ending had to change because we could not ignore this trial. it was too much. our whole final act which originally was jodi trying to get away with it and getting caught, that all had to go and we had to take the elements of the trial and change the ending of the movie. >> your research included videos, documents and ere evidence as well. a lot of times you have films on lifetime or cable channels where

they are reenactments but did you try to portray what happened? >> as much as we could. there was a lot of information out there. there was a lot of stuff that wasn't in the original script that really helped us. one example is we believe when we were writing the initial script that jodi went off and got baptized as a mormon without travis's knowledge. >> he was a mormon, right? >> right. she got baptized to dpget close to him. >> gregory, did you get input or reaction from the families or friends of either jodi arias or travis alexander? >> we didn't directly but we got lots of input from the press material out there. we tried to absorb as much as we

could. we followed the trial as much as we could. we couldn't watch the entire thing because we were still writing but we just absorbed as much as we could. we didn't talk to them directly but we feel we did due diligence trying to make certain we were putting in place truthful markers in this story. there was no way we could tell exactly the story because a lot of it was behind closed doors. there was so much information about it that we tried to get information all throughout the process. we stuck to it and was accurate. >> we'll be watching tonight. jodi arias dirty little secret. >> thank you. it's a new twist of fast food. claim that it's good for you. that's next. hey, look! a shooting star!

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just as the american medical association says obesity is a disease, a new poll finds an increasing number of americans are finding themselves in that position. 27.1% of americans are obese. that's up from a few years ago. the best way to lose weight is to cut out the junk food but the cover story of this month's issue of the atlantic argues that processed fast food isn't as bad and it's the all natural food that could leave you packing on the pounds. david, i'm going to imagine you got a lot of push back. give us your thesis because it's not conventional wisdom. >> sure. the basic ideas we've been hearing fhear ing for a long time, cut out the junk food.

most obese people can't afford it. they can't access it and don't want it. we've been saying eat your vegetables for of. we need to do something else. the fact is we're stuck with junk food. let's find way to make it healthier. right now even junk food restaurants serve a lot of healthy stuff. they serve more of it and could serve a lot more. >> when you talk about going to cafe sprouts in ohio, you go to health foods and then you mitt mcdonalds in chicago. you were most pleased with the mcdonald's offering. why? >> if you go to a lot of health foold restaura food restaurants you get food loaded with fat, salt and sugar. if it's natural or unprocessed it's good for you. what's bad is eating a lot of fat that's high calorie, eating

a lot of sugar and simple carbs. that's bad. it doesn't matter whether it's processed or unprocessed. you can go to mcdonald's and they will show you the calorie count. they have a great line up of grilled chicken and fruit smoothies. it's cheap and convenient. >> then you go to whole foods which is place for natural and all sorts of foods and you're saying -- tell me what you're saying in this article. >> i shop at whole foods but i started looking at the ingredient labels. what you find is a lot of stuff which screams fresh, natural, right from the farm, unproce unprocessed, not genetically modify, sometimes raw but you look at the nutritional

information, a lot of fat, salt, sugar and that's bad for you if you have a weight food problem. you need to cut down on that stuff. >> what should be the wisdom on salt? you mentioned that. >> salt didn't have calories. salt is something our brains are wired to love. whatever food you put it on you'll want a lot more of it. you can put it on vegetables and you'll want more. salt isn't part of the obesity problem. fat food restaurants put a lot of it on. >> how junk food can end obesity in the atlantic, it's a dense

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time for the big three. today's topics, immigration imperative, farm bill failure and best week worst week. here is our panel. with don't have a lot of time. we're going to get right to it. we have the president who is really only one signature bill under his watch. is im congratulations reform the only other possibility that he has to establish a legacy. >> i'm not exactly holding my breath. but republicans has to think about what the long-term strategy is here.

>> if the republican led house rejects this bill, is it fair game or game over for the gop with latino voters? >> i think it would be disastro disastrous. but also because the house must show this leadership must show that they can actually do thing something that they are not the party of now. and this is the perfect piece of legislation to say yes, we can get something done on it. >> what about the senate added can which is the amendment that spends 30 billion fortifying the border, new brokens. has that rangled immigrate advocacy groups and not letting the perfect get in the way of the good? >> the perfect can't get in the way of the good. i thought that they did good things, but they may have gone too far. certainly we don't want the perfect to get in the way of the

good. >> what about the farm bill failure, erin. s in a big surprise. how were republicans caught so off guard was it the democrat that pulled the rug out from under them? >> i don't know why democrat would have voted something like this. there is an agreement that sfood for decades about the food stamps. that agreement was broken. there's no reason for the democrat to help out the republican when they can't get their caucus together. >> but does this turn into more bad pr from the gop? cutting $40 billion from the food stamp program. >> this also goes to the point of why immigration reform is so important. the farm bill has been always been something that's received bipartisan support by huge

numbers. they're probably going to do another one-year extension. >> john boehner is supposed to know whether or not he can pass a bill. what happened? >> that was a disaster. and that's really poor leadership. the fact that he couldn't get the right count is to problem mattic for that conference that it really shows that anyone can go renegade. the problem is if he his afraid of his job, known else wants it. he's really got to come together and deal when it comes to the immigration. >> how? when it comes to the house, there never seems to be a middle ground. that was even more pronounced here. you have the democrat voting against it, republican voting against it because the cuts weren't steep enough. is there any hope of coming together? >> not likely. i think this is the caucus gone wild. but this is sort of the like the

democrats not being able to pass the transportation bill for rural america. they need to fix this quickly as their election is coming up upon them. and i don't have much hope in boehner going forward. >> do you think this congress can get anything passed? >> i don't think so. the house can't get really too many things done. >> from there we're going to best and worth of the week. what's your best and worst. >> befgt of week, even though this is an up hill battle, grass roots pro choice accountivism in red states. texas and wisconsin had big protests. worth week, this is a no brainer. paula deen. took a really long time to apologize for racist remarks and didn't probably apologize and now her career is in big trouble. >> morris. >> my pick is one in the same.

drek casey for iran. and a pro demack crazy under -- newt beginning risch. i have hope for iran. >> suzanne. >> best week, senator lisa mckous ski coming out in favor of gay marriage. her state was one of of the first to ban gay marriage within the state. so it shows that they're opening up to different ideas. and worth week, john boehner for everything that we just discussed. >> thanks so much, guys. that's a wrap of weekends with alex witt. up next, we have craig melvin. i am alex witt. have yourselves a great day. it's a fresh-over. that's great. tastes like you just picked them. so far it's about the best strawberry i've had this year. walmart works directly with growers

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